tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4104008306812776429.post1486355490236531015..comments2023-09-07T12:12:55.877+01:00Comments on WelshnotBritish.com: Organ FarmingAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11475962539522399975noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4104008306812776429.post-34865307186503503972013-07-03T19:05:55.179+01:002013-07-03T19:05:55.179+01:00Thanks, I think Owen might have answered that firs...Thanks, I think Owen might have answered that first question (if it can be answered) below.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4104008306812776429.post-43142510556002036322013-07-03T15:54:21.903+01:002013-07-03T15:54:21.903+01:00Thank you Owen, I kind of talked myself around wit...Thank you Owen, I kind of talked myself around with the post. At least from 30/70 against to about 70/30 for. There are a number of anti-colonial fights we need to have but perhaps this is not one of them.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4104008306812776429.post-81520050789730459222013-07-03T14:27:10.525+01:002013-07-03T14:27:10.525+01:00Great post, Stuart. I think it is worth trying to ...Great post, Stuart. I think it is worth trying to answer some of your questions as best as I understand it, rearranged in order slightly.<br /><br /><i>Where are all the hospitals that transplants take place. If they are mainly based in England then it would surely be easier (and possibly more successful) to have patients that are nearer? </i><br /><br />The Heath does kidney and pancreas transplants (I think). Those are the only transplants carried out in Wales. Most of them are carried out in London and Manchester, and even Scotland only has two transplant centres. Wales should provide heart and lung transplants at the very least, IMO.<br /><br /><i>If organs become available in Newport with suitable matches in Bristol and Swansea then which patient will get the organs? </i><br /><br />It depends on the organ. Both potential recipients are likely to be based at the same transplant centre. That could even be Cardiff in the case of a pancreas (Bristol only does kidneys). Then it would simply come down to whoever's been on the waiting list the longest, I'd imagine, as well as the chances of rejection. However, an "emergency" case would override both.<br /><br /><i>Will reports be published stating where each donated organ are sent, what happened to them and what the projected cost saving will be? (eg the donor site says a kidney transplant will save around £241,000 in 10 years) </i><br /><br />The Welsh Government will inevitably "monitor" this, I think they are legally obliged to in the law too. I'm not sure if it's down to that level of detail though.<br /><br /><i>Given that the NHS in England is moving closer to privatisation and that patients in Wales are having to go to English hospitals (due to Labour closures and downgrades) might we see a time where organs are effectively used as payment? <br />Given the financial value of organs could there be a 'highest bidder' scenario? <br />Will the donor or their family receive some sort of payment based on the money saved? <br />Will the donor country receive some sort of payment based on the money saved? </i><br /><br />Sale of organs is illegal, but there is an illegal trade in organs. You pose an interesting question about organs becoming a "method of exchange", but in all honesty I think it's unlikely. The moment there's news of something like that it would be an Alder Hey level scandal and heads would roll. The Human Tissues Act 2004 is supposed to protect us from that, but I was disappointed that it came under attack in the Senedd yesterday.<br /><br /><i>If a person in Wales dies as result of a person in the rest of the UK being deemed more suitable will we be told about this?</i> <br /><br />No, but that's how organ donation works. It's rationing. It probably already happens in both directions.<br /><br /><i>Since Wales will be used as a penal colony with the arrival of the new super prison, why are prisoners exempt from this bill? <br />And since we're a dumping ground for second rate students why are they exempt?</i> <br /><br />It won't apply to prisoners because they haven't voluntarily come to Wales, they've been sent here. It will apply to students who've lived in Wales for more than 12 months though.<br />Owenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04347494808853759106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4104008306812776429.post-63618272010143974842013-07-03T14:13:12.766+01:002013-07-03T14:13:12.766+01:00Should have added...excellent post.Should have added...excellent post.Derhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03032379645318088250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4104008306812776429.post-90378101918505666162013-07-03T14:11:30.574+01:002013-07-03T14:11:30.574+01:00I think you touched it above in the questions you ...I think you touched it above in the questions you have but this is the question I would also like to ask.....If somebody in an NHS hospital in Wales say need an organ, and so does somebody lets say in a Private hospital in England....does the patient in England get the organ because they will probably be able to pay more?Derhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03032379645318088250noreply@blogger.com